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		<title>By: Errols</title>
		<link>http://www.e-x-e.dk/2009/12/09/why-joomla-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>Errols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was asked to get a club&#039;s Joomla 1.5 website fixed after it got broken. I got it up and running, but it is held together with duct tape and nails (www.pedsac.co.za). After a whole year of trying to get to grips with Joomla, I finally quit. Good idea - bad product. It truly is a &quot;time-sink&quot; like Linford put it. 

The free extensions are even worse. They are free because they are useless. 

Back to the future with raw HTML!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was asked to get a club&#8217;s Joomla 1.5 website fixed after it got broken. I got it up and running, but it is held together with duct tape and nails (www.pedsac.co.za). After a whole year of trying to get to grips with Joomla, I finally quit. Good idea &#8211; bad product. It truly is a &#8220;time-sink&#8221; like Linford put it. </p>
<p>The free extensions are even worse. They are free because they are useless. </p>
<p>Back to the future with raw HTML!</p>
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		<title>By: Why Joomla Sucks and WordPress Doesn't! &#124; Blog Oh Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.e-x-e.dk/2009/12/09/why-joomla-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-197</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Joomla Sucks and WordPress Doesn't! &#124; Blog Oh Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A funny quote from the Internet about Joomla  by someone named Linford:- [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Master AK</title>
		<link>http://www.e-x-e.dk/2009/12/09/why-joomla-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>Master AK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a hardcore developer, made several CMS systems and web portal.  I can tell you the logic of Joomla is horrifying me and I feel pity for people wasting their brain learning this logic. I am glad I stayed away from Joomla all these years and will continue doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a hardcore developer, made several CMS systems and web portal.  I can tell you the logic of Joomla is horrifying me and I feel pity for people wasting their brain learning this logic. I am glad I stayed away from Joomla all these years and will continue doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: Web Dev</title>
		<link>http://www.e-x-e.dk/2009/12/09/why-joomla-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Dev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 03:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just had to add an &#039;article&#039; to a clients site - which unfortunately was joomla.  I nearly put my fist through the monitor in dealing with the backend.  It&#039;s awful and the WSIWYG editor is horrible - so much so that the guy who set the site up was using images for a lot of the text as it wouldn&#039;t show properly.  Then trying to add menu items again took up about 30 minutes of my time dicking around.

Anyway, steer clear of this junk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had to add an &#8216;article&#8217; to a clients site &#8211; which unfortunately was joomla.  I nearly put my fist through the monitor in dealing with the backend.  It&#8217;s awful and the WSIWYG editor is horrible &#8211; so much so that the guy who set the site up was using images for a lot of the text as it wouldn&#8217;t show properly.  Then trying to add menu items again took up about 30 minutes of my time dicking around.</p>
<p>Anyway, steer clear of this junk.</p>
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		<title>By: MC Hammer</title>
		<link>http://www.e-x-e.dk/2009/12/09/why-joomla-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>MC Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is anyone actually supposed to manage their content with joomla?  Im coming from a WordPress background where there clearly defined categories, or taxonomies.  And this.... Joomla?  WTH!?!?!?! I hate to jump to conclusion but after a about three weeks with Joomla, I hate it.  I have spent almost a week trying to find a viable photo album option and they all suck.  With WP, this would be as simple as installing NEXTGen Gallery and moving on.  Or simply use featured images.  Now let me spend another 4 weeks on figuring out how to use thumbnails with joomla articles.  Oh wait, one guy 3 years ago on some sparse forum said that the best way to use thumbnails with joomla was to use this extension with this extension and buy this component, and upgrade to joomla 1.5.12.9.74.58 but dont upgrade to version 1.5.12.9.74.59 yet cause none of the extensions, plugins, components, or modules will be compatible for another year even though they are commercial plugins.  I think rather than using Joomla, I am going to pay someone to come sit behind me and slap me in the top of my skull with a long wooden spoon repeatedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is anyone actually supposed to manage their content with joomla?  Im coming from a WordPress background where there clearly defined categories, or taxonomies.  And this&#8230;. Joomla?  WTH!?!?!?! I hate to jump to conclusion but after a about three weeks with Joomla, I hate it.  I have spent almost a week trying to find a viable photo album option and they all suck.  With WP, this would be as simple as installing NEXTGen Gallery and moving on.  Or simply use featured images.  Now let me spend another 4 weeks on figuring out how to use thumbnails with joomla articles.  Oh wait, one guy 3 years ago on some sparse forum said that the best way to use thumbnails with joomla was to use this extension with this extension and buy this component, and upgrade to joomla 1.5.12.9.74.58 but dont upgrade to version 1.5.12.9.74.59 yet cause none of the extensions, plugins, components, or modules will be compatible for another year even though they are commercial plugins.  I think rather than using Joomla, I am going to pay someone to come sit behind me and slap me in the top of my skull with a long wooden spoon repeatedly.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordpress Designer</title>
		<link>http://www.e-x-e.dk/2009/12/09/why-joomla-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Wordpress Designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joomla is the most user unfriendly backend in the entire world. My clients hate it, I hate. Wordpress is vastly easier for clients to use and vastly easier to code templates. I saw on another post that Joomla can do more than Wordpress. LOL how so? You can&#039;t even embed video without have to install a plugin orchange the admin settings. I say YES joomla is the best CMS as long as you are in competition with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joomla is the most user unfriendly backend in the entire world. My clients hate it, I hate. WordPress is vastly easier for clients to use and vastly easier to code templates. I saw on another post that Joomla can do more than WordPress. LOL how so? You can&#8217;t even embed video without have to install a plugin orchange the admin settings. I say YES joomla is the best CMS as long as you are in competition with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 03:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My horror story began about a year ago when I was approached and asked to help refresh an existing site.  The first clue to run was that the site was running Joomla and using the Virtuemart component with a 500+ product base.  The second clue to run was when after finalizing the requirements and discovering that there would have to be extensive customization to how both Joomla and Virtuemart operated and flow with each other.  The final clue came right before I was in too deep.  I reviewed all of this and suggested a different CMS, but one of the site operators was terrified of change and already knew how to use the combination so my suggestion was rejected.

After I started working on the project my designer got frustrated pretty quickly while trying to deal with just the nuances of how templates are handled.  While I can only relate to you how he felt about the design portion I can tell you that my frustration began when I started working on the first series of customizations.  What, in my mind, should have been some rather simple changes turned out to be a time consuming process and many times required me to rewrite large blocks of code.  Sometimes it felt like I was trudging through a wasteland of poorly written or overly cryptic (deliberately?) code.  Some of the things I saw did not make sense at all.  Other things I saw made me wonder how something like this would get past any form of quality control.  While I understand Joomla is open source and supported by the community, there should still be some form of quality control.

My final thoughts on Joomla are:
It’s codebase is a bloated, convoluted mess.
If you do want to use it then rely only on the stock templates/components/modules or try to find some that match as closely as you require.  Try not to make any customizations.
If you have problems don’t rely on trying to find a concise source of support.
Don’t do it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My horror story began about a year ago when I was approached and asked to help refresh an existing site.  The first clue to run was that the site was running Joomla and using the Virtuemart component with a 500+ product base.  The second clue to run was when after finalizing the requirements and discovering that there would have to be extensive customization to how both Joomla and Virtuemart operated and flow with each other.  The final clue came right before I was in too deep.  I reviewed all of this and suggested a different CMS, but one of the site operators was terrified of change and already knew how to use the combination so my suggestion was rejected.</p>
<p>After I started working on the project my designer got frustrated pretty quickly while trying to deal with just the nuances of how templates are handled.  While I can only relate to you how he felt about the design portion I can tell you that my frustration began when I started working on the first series of customizations.  What, in my mind, should have been some rather simple changes turned out to be a time consuming process and many times required me to rewrite large blocks of code.  Sometimes it felt like I was trudging through a wasteland of poorly written or overly cryptic (deliberately?) code.  Some of the things I saw did not make sense at all.  Other things I saw made me wonder how something like this would get past any form of quality control.  While I understand Joomla is open source and supported by the community, there should still be some form of quality control.</p>
<p>My final thoughts on Joomla are:<br />
It’s codebase is a bloated, convoluted mess.<br />
If you do want to use it then rely only on the stock templates/components/modules or try to find some that match as closely as you require.  Try not to make any customizations.<br />
If you have problems don’t rely on trying to find a concise source of support.<br />
Don’t do it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: steven p</title>
		<link>http://www.e-x-e.dk/2009/12/09/why-joomla-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>steven p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joomla is an absolute joke. I can - and did - code a complete website faster with PHP/CSS/mySql/flash &amp; AS2 faster than with Joomla. Why? Joomla did not work &quot;out of the box&quot;. Links are broken on the default install (404 errors on the pdf/print buttons).

I do this stuff for a living and wanted to see what the &quot;buzz&quot; was about. Now I know. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joomla is an absolute joke. I can &#8211; and did &#8211; code a complete website faster with PHP/CSS/mySql/flash &amp; AS2 faster than with Joomla. Why? Joomla did not work &#8220;out of the box&#8221;. Links are broken on the default install (404 errors on the pdf/print buttons).</p>
<p>I do this stuff for a living and wanted to see what the &#8220;buzz&#8221; was about. Now I know. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: copyNinja</title>
		<link>http://www.e-x-e.dk/2009/12/09/why-joomla-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>copyNinja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO.. Im glad others too have noticed.. nicely said Linford</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO.. Im glad others too have noticed.. nicely said Linford</p>
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		<title>By: Linford</title>
		<link>http://www.e-x-e.dk/2009/12/09/why-joomla-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Linford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 02:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joomla sucks. Joomla is smoke and mirrors. It promises a lot, delivers nothing. Joomla is a time-sink–it takes up whatever time you have and you’re still left with nothing. I spent three months trying to get Joomla to perform, knocking myself out, results: 0. Joomla is unstable, vastly buggy, comes with no support, generates crappy code, is largely undiagnosable. When I saw Joomla generate 25 nested divs, I knew Joomla is a horrible endeavor. If you think you have it hard now, it only gets worse. I returned to Dreamweaver. I’m a web designer and have no interest becoming my own programming consultant. If you want to create or maintain a website, do it the old-fashioned and time-tested way using the likes of Dreamweaver. There are no shortcuts. Joomla’s reason for being is that “it’s a shortcut”–but really, Joomla is a longcut. An analogy is you want to travel from San Francisco to New York–Dreamweaver gets you from SF to NY by way of Chicago competently–Joomla gets you from SF to NY by way of China–actually Joomla never reaches NY–it strands you in China–you’re left standing scratching your head asking how the hell did I get to here to China? Joomla is the worst software I’ve ever encountered. Learn the likes of Dreamweaver!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joomla sucks. Joomla is smoke and mirrors. It promises a lot, delivers nothing. Joomla is a time-sink–it takes up whatever time you have and you’re still left with nothing. I spent three months trying to get Joomla to perform, knocking myself out, results: 0. Joomla is unstable, vastly buggy, comes with no support, generates crappy code, is largely undiagnosable. When I saw Joomla generate 25 nested divs, I knew Joomla is a horrible endeavor. If you think you have it hard now, it only gets worse. I returned to Dreamweaver. I’m a web designer and have no interest becoming my own programming consultant. If you want to create or maintain a website, do it the old-fashioned and time-tested way using the likes of Dreamweaver. There are no shortcuts. Joomla’s reason for being is that “it’s a shortcut”–but really, Joomla is a longcut. An analogy is you want to travel from San Francisco to New York–Dreamweaver gets you from SF to NY by way of Chicago competently–Joomla gets you from SF to NY by way of China–actually Joomla never reaches NY–it strands you in China–you’re left standing scratching your head asking how the hell did I get to here to China? Joomla is the worst software I’ve ever encountered. Learn the likes of Dreamweaver!</p>
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